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Old 07-13-2010, 12:34 PM
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Default DOI/USFWS Says "NO" to Bonner Bridge Replacement!

Absolutely sickening, but not at all unexpetced.

Props to Dare Co. Chairman Warren Judge for this quote:

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“They are depriving people of Hatteras Island of their lives, liberty, and pursuit of happiness,” Judge said.

“DOI is working for SELC or vice versa.”

“They have no sense of social responsibility,” he added.

Thanks you Sir, for publicly stating that which many of us have held for years. Collusion amongst the greens and the feds, for all to see.

However, with a Jarvis in charge of the NPS, we should not be that surprised.

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DOI says that by selecting the Parallel Bridge with N.C. 12 Transportation Management Plan (PB/TMP), “…the NCDOT and FHWA are deferring decision-making and analysis of the most contentious, expensive, and potentially environmentally damaging part of the project (N.C. 12) to some later date without providing any clear sense that those future phases can be implemented in light of know logistical, financial, and legal constraints.”

The comments go on to say:

“The Department is concerned that this is not an appropriate basis for Federal action. Specifically, we reiterate our previous concern that the NEPA documentation provided to date is not adequate to support decision the Department must make regarding whether, or under what conditions, to issue the necessary Department authorizations….As such, the Department is concerned that the EA description and analysis for the new PB/TMP alternative is inadequate and an SFEIS is warranted.”

The Department of Interior speaks for both the National Park Service and the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, which must issue permits for the new plan at Bodie Island and on Pea Island National Wildlife Refuge.

To be fair, DOI has raised concerns about the project all along. The main one is whether the project is “compatible” with the goals of the wildlife refuge.

However, this is the first time DOI has come right out and said “NO.”

Fight this travesty of justice with all your might, in any way you can.

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djoyner@ncdot.gov.

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Old 07-13-2010, 01:57 PM
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Typical government rubes.
They play the fence on every issue from the access
" we are only enforce the consent decree"
Yet stack the deck in favor of the SELC and DOW by staying silent on any legitimate reports on progess on the bird and turle issue when it doesn't suit them. ( See last years end report)
Murray says he is neutral yet dances the night away at the Audobon awards banquent where he is honored by them ( remember those pics of him in raleigh last year)
Now DOI has finally shaken off thier hide and shown thier true colors as well.
Please comment on the NEPA issue and to those politicians who won't listen remember this in November, also remember the ones who don't do enough on this issue and make them un-employed come Nov.
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Old 07-14-2010, 06:06 AM
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When the goal is to stop people from coming to this Island, you don't need any bridge..Did you expect anything else... Wait till the FEIS... It will show you that they just do not care what you want... They know whats better for you..... JAM
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When the goal is to stop people from coming to this Island, you don't need any bridge..Did you expect anything else...
That ain't the goal. It's only a step toward the goal. The goal is to remove everyone from the islands. (Hatt. & O'coke)

I'll never forget the documentary on NC barrier islands that I saw on PBS. Every scene showing human habitation and usage was depicted in a negative manner. The documentary was narrated by Merryl Streep. In the closing dialogue that she read it was stated that the barrier islands of NC are too fragile of a resource to support human habitation and too precious of a resource to allow human habitation to continue.

That is their mantra and that is their goal. The DOI included.
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Old 07-14-2010, 08:54 AM
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That ain't the goal. It's only a step toward the goal. The goal is to remove everyone from the islands. (Hatt. & O'coke)

I'll never forget the documentary on NC barrier islands that I saw on PBS. Every scene showing human habitation and usage was depicted in a negative manner. The documentary was narrated by Merryl Streep. In the closing dialogue that she read it was stated that the barrier islands of NC are too fragile of a resource to support human habitation and too precious of a resource to allow human habitation to continue.

That is their mantra and that is their goal. The DOI included.

Yep, as I've been saying for about 3-4 yrs now. Know your enemy.

Their long term strategic goal is like you say. Their short term tactical plan to reach that goal is to chip away a little at a time, not caring if it takes decades to put their strategy in place.

Go back over time and you see the line marching in one direction only so far. It never moves back.

As soon as they reach Ocracoke inlet, the slim will start flowing on down over Portsmouth and the rest of CALO.
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As soon as they reach Ocracoke inlet, the slim will start flowing on down over Portsmouth and the rest of CALO.
It's happening now. NPS will not cooperate with the state of NC in dredging the PI ferry channel. I got to talking to the ferry operator on the way back this spring. If I remember correctly, on the island side the NPS has jurisdiction over a small area of the sound out from the ferry dock, something like 150'. NC had a dredge on site and was prepared to dredge the entire channel from the mainland to fed jurisdiction. NPS would not give the go ahead to dredge their small area so the dredge was pulled out. No ferry and the island shuts down save for the day tourists coming over on the passenger-only ferry from O'coke.
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Know what's sad we ( us here and the citizens of Hattteras Island and Dare county) Have come to absoloutely expect this trash from our government.
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Time for a good old fashion TAX REVOLT.. They can't do sh!t without our money.. Stop paying taxes, pay it into an escrow account... Then lets see what happens.. JAM
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After everything I've read, shouldnt this s*** be a no brain er? The bridge needs to be replaced. It will not last forever, shoot even a few more yrs and then what? I hate imagining some family or individuals that would be killed by what will be a major sectional collapse. Then what? I mean I know I must be missing something here..
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After everything I've read, shouldnt this s*** be a no brain er? The bridge needs to be replaced. It will not last forever, shoot even a few more yrs and then what? I hate imagining some family or individuals that would be killed by what will be a major sectional collapse. Then what? I mean I know I must be missing something here..
Anyone remember the "ship hit the span" pictures from the 80's when the barge took out the span section? Well traffic is now 5 times what it was then. Personally I know those idiots DOI ( Department of Idiots, SELC Audobon et al.) would like nothing more than for it to collapse again shutting the island off for a minimum of a year killing off human presence on the island.
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Anyone remember the "ship hit the span" pictures from the 80's when the barge took out the span section? Well traffic is now 5 times what it was then. Personally I know those idiots DOI ( Department of Idiots, SELC Audobon et al.) would like nothing more than for it to collapse again shutting the island off for a minimum of a year killing off human presence on the island.
I remember when I was a kid and the barge breaking loose and hitting/taking out a section of the bridge. You can still feel the section they had to repair when you drive over it. I think it was like '91 in Oct? Ive talked to a friend that lives in Avon that was there on Hatteras on vacation at the time and they waited in line for the ferry from Hatteras, and then again to get off Ocracoke and they were in line Saturday and finally got on the Ocracoke ferry on Monday..
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Are they gonna go back and establish a ferry system across Oregon Inlet then?? No? Ok then... Not practical right? Seems obvious what needs to be done.. I hope it just doesnt take someone dying to get s--- rolling.
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NC Ferry system ( Outer Banks task force) has a contingency plan in place for running ferries across oregon inlet if the bridge were to collapse. If it did go I can't imagine it taking anyhting less than a week for the inlet to be sounded and dredged at the emergency ramps if needed while ferrys are pulled from the Ocracoke-Hatteras run to make the trips.I am sure during that week these idiots would file a lawsuit over illegal dredging like they did in 2004
http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclu...e.html?id=1721
It would be a mess no matter what.
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Ridiculous. I hope the public comments help.
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